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« on: October 01, 2006, 12:52:29 AM »

are you guys big fans of them? i got mine for free when i got my ZBTs... i don't know if i care it. it could be because that it is a ZBT, but i don't know? i just don't like the sound.
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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2006, 10:23:45 AM »

i went out and bought one of those cheap 12" Wuhan Chinas from GC on sale for like $11.99 a while back....(for 12 bucks can you go wrong, probably, but...)

it has its place for me, seldomly used, its surprisingly decent....it kinda fits in a couple a tunes I do....like....um......(thinking process slow, just got up a few mins ago)......

Billy Idol....dancin with myself
INXS....original sin

just to name a couple....for me it seems when the band sound is full and the cymbal wash is already pretty loud,  there are spots to stick a china hit or two, every now and then (IMO)
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so am I a big fan? no, but I think they have there place, definitely is based on what you're playing
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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2006, 11:50:31 AM »

i love them myself. Very useful for intresting accents, and some beats sound good on them too.

The sound of them is so raw...love it. Only wish i had one  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2007, 02:30:23 PM »

i love china cymbals
im still trying to find the right one
my set up now is
14 AA reg hats
16 and 18 medium thin crashs
20 medium ride
6 zil-bell

i need a china that will do double duties with my metal band and the session work i do which is usally country and gospel
so if any one has advise please let me know
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2007, 09:17:52 PM »

Im thinking of buying the ZHT efx pack, but I'm broke out of my mind, and at a loss of stands.
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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2007, 01:21:43 PM »

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i went out and bought one of those cheap 12" Wuhan Chinas from GC on sale for like $11.99 a while back....(for 12 bucks can you go wrong, probably, but...)

it has its place for me, seldomly used, its surprisingly decent....it kinda fits in a couple a tunes I do....like....um......(thinking process slow, just got up a few mins ago)......

Billy Idol....dancin with myself
INXS....original sin

just to name a couple....for me it seems when the band sound is full and the cymbal wash is already pretty loud, there are spots to stick a china hit or two, every now and then (IMO)
 Smiley
so am I a big fan? no, but I think they have there place, definitely is based on what you're playing



after reading i went to my local guitar center and took a stick to the wuhans and fell in love with the 16 and 18 they just had that dark and punchy sound i was looking for      
the 12 was great but i just figured that was for another day when i was used to the 18 and 16
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2007, 06:59:55 PM »

Yeah i like my Monster of a Cina Cybla a Sabian 20".. loud n proud n trashy!!
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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2007, 10:39:29 AM »

Love my 18" Swish, not quite the china sound but close enough to perfect for me!
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 05:49:02 PM »

Anyone tried the Zildjian ZXT trash? Apparently its a crash run over by a VW beetle, and gives a very trashy/chinary sound.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2007, 09:16:32 PM »

Gotta love those chinas.!!!!!!!! LOL  Grin

For me the best ones are the Oriental China Trash (18" and 16") and the K Mini China 14"....

Every brand has their share of great chinas, but those are the ones i like the best....
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 02:23:57 PM »

Well, as we're on the subject of FX cymbals, this is Zildjian's lastest addition:


That...is crazy. I don't care what it sounds like, i want one!
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 11:05:28 PM »

That is a BEAST. Where do you hit it?

Back on subject, I got a wuhan china in Idaho for 30 bucks. I think that's just the right price. Expensive enough to be okay quality, and cheap enough to buy without second thoughts. Also I love the sound. Gotta love wuhan!
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 11:41:22 PM »

Wuhan Is GREAT for the prices they are selling!!! Wink - I have 3 trashes my self - costed me $75 for all 3 of them Grin
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2007, 12:03:16 PM »

Jeez, I think it's so strange to see something hand made for less money than the ones that arent.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2007, 06:27:28 PM »

I haven't heard of Wuhan...might keep a look out for them.
I just bought a Paiste china off a mate for 35 ($69). Not too bad, but if your saying you can get 3 Wuhans for a lil bit more than that, i'm amazed!
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 02:17:07 AM »

Yep, actually they start from $9.99 in US! - Check this out:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Wuhan-China-Cymbal?sku=442700

So I guess I did not have the BEST deal after all!!  Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2007, 06:19:39 AM »

Jeeze! i have to go and try them out! i can imagine a nice splash from them doing me good!  Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2007, 01:40:44 PM »

Don't think wuhan makes splashes. Pretty sure it's just china's. I got an Avedis Zildjian A splash for 130$. Not too bad. I live in Canada though.
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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 01:07:26 AM »

Don't think wuhan makes splashes. Pretty sure it's just china's.


Not true, here you go:
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Wuhan-Splash-Cymbal?sku=445860&src=3SOSWXXA

Wuhan makes a lot of different cymbal styles, check the attachments for the Wuhan catalog previews...
Also note that those are NOT the complete Wuhan catalogs and they do have more "series" than what is below...


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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2007, 05:43:46 PM »

yea, they make a load of cymbals. But at a guess, i would expect them all to be very trashy, even their crashes, cos that's what they do best.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2007, 07:05:51 PM »

I stand corrected.
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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2007, 12:21:45 PM »

China type cymbals, regarldess of the company/brand, have one design feature in common; that's the turned up edge.   That edge gives it the brash sound characteristic.  However, from there it branches off into many sound possibilties depending on the brand, the alloy, the diameter, the weight, and the bell.

So when asked "do you like China cymbals?", I'd have to reply that I like SOME.

Let me cite some examples.  A 22" Zildjian Swish Knocker sounds nothing like a 22" Zildjian Pang.
Neither does a 18" Paiste Novo China sound anything like a 18" Paiste Traditional Medium Light Swish.
A 20" Sabian Flat Chinese sounds differnent than a Sabian 20" Heavy China.

You see, like Rides or Splashes, the "China" is a general category.  So, we have many, many choices and that China cymbal that you might LIKE and that you could USE in your performances is probably out there waiting for you to find it. 
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2007, 05:44:22 PM »

I forget to say that do I have a 22" Paiste Signature Thin China with 6 rivets that I use quite a bit.  I can obviously crash it, but I also do cymbal roll swells, and use it for low-pitched ride patterns.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2008, 06:59:59 PM »

i got to get a wuhan... but i really like zildjian orential china trash cymbals. personaly i like want a china on my kit just haven't got one yet... wat i dn't understang is having to chinas on your kit my friend has a sabian 16 AAX china and an 18 AA china.  that's just kinda pointless
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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 11:26:49 AM »

I love china cymbals. They sound great in rock and metal music which is what i usually play.
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