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Title: Cymbal CRACKEDD
Post by: Darren1234 on September 16, 2008, 10:51:26 PM
i cracked my ride cymbal. i was wondering how people cut out the part that is cracked?
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Title: Re: Cymbal CRACKEDD
Post by: PASHA on September 17, 2008, 04:58:15 PM
How bad is it? And where exactly is the crack? If it is just a tiny crack, not directly on the side of your cymbal, you can just drill it out (with a drill-bit for metal obviously)...

Title: Re: Cymbal CRACKEDD
Post by: Tomm on October 05, 2008, 01:35:36 AM
Dude...what are you hitting your RIDE cymbal with that you cracked it?  Okay. like PASHA asked, where is it  cracked?  If it's the edge..cut a new circumference.  I'll bet you won't like the new sound you'll get, and if it s an inner circumference radial crack, melt it down for scrap and consider buying a different brand of cymbal because you have been ripped off if you can crack a ride in less than 40 years. 

Title: Re: Cymbal CRACKEDD
Post by: PASHA on October 07, 2008, 02:22:52 AM
...you have been ripped off if you can crack a ride in less than 40 years. 
:D - Thats funny! ...but it can actually happen, I mean I saw it with my own eyes when a black metal drummer has trashed a brand new 26 inch ride beyond repairs!!  :o :o - But I agree with you, unless you are hitting it like an animal trying to break it on purpose,  and unless you are hitting it with a metal drumstick or something like that, a medium thickness professional ride (unless factory defective) should last and last and last, etc...

Title: Re: Cracked Cymbal
Post by: KenSanders on October 07, 2008, 11:10:28 PM
Sometimes cymbals can be damaged in transit, that's why I always recommend that they be carried and stored in a well designed bag or case.  If cymbals are dropped onto a hard surface it could also cause them to crack.  It is, however,  unusual to crack a ride cymbal under normal playing conditions if the ride cymbal being played within the volume thresehold of it's diameter and thickness (weight). :-[

Some cracks can be "stop drilled".  That means drilling a small hole at each end of the crack to "STOP" it from spreading.  Small cracks like that may not cause a big difference in the overall sound OR the edges of the crack could rattle against one another producing a buzzing sound.  Who knows until you try to fix it.  Sometimes the cymbal can be usable......sometimes not.  ???

If you have basically knocked a hole in the edge .....or otherwise knocked several cracks and splints into the surface....then YES it can be cut out as an attempt to stop future damage.  It will most likely not sound good to you anymore.......unless you're wanting a weird and probably ugly sound.

I believe the most urgent matter is to determine EXACTLY WHY IT CRACKED.  That's important if you don't contine to shatter good cymbals.  If it's not important, then you can skip the rest of this reply.  ::)

Other than an accident from dropping  it or some transport mishap, I hope the damage wasn't a result of bacically beating the hell out of it. 

let me use a real example in venue size/volume requirements.  I played six shows shows with an 18 piece big band before 10,000 people at each performance last week.  I used right and left overhead mics to make sure my cymbals were clearly in the mix.  I did not play them any harder than I would typically play on a big band gig.  I'll perform a small venue jazz performance tomorrow, and will select volume appropriate cymbals for that situation.  I won't need to mic them in the jazz venue.  My point is that if you must carry a large room with volume you need sound reinforcement not sledge hammer sized sticks.

As I have discussed before, cymbals do have a volume threshold.  That is the point where hitting them harder doesn't produce any additional useable tone or volume.  Beyond that point you will most likely crack or bend the cymbal.

So if you have cracked a cymbal as a result of trying to extract more volume than the cymbal was capable of producing, then you need to select cymbals designed for very hard playing and extreme volume.  For those cymbals I also seriously recommend on stage ear protection.

Here is a blog I wrote that you also might find helpful.   8)


Title: Re: Cymbal CRACKEDD
Post by: Johnathan on December 02, 2008, 09:07:36 AM
Great stuff Ken